Showing posts with label Karakurt-class. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Karakurt-class. Show all posts

Monday, October 23, 2023

There Are Always Consequences.

I am talking about Finland and Sweden and them joining NATO. First, there have been economic measures from Russia which are helping now to bankrupt a number of Finnish industries. Now, the question: what happens if you take a number of these:

Then take this:  
And do classic maneuver by forces. Like this:

Well, you get this:

Военно-технический ответ на расширение НАТО готовят на Ладожском озере — оно может стать местом запуска ракет малыми ракетными кораблями (МРК). Минобороны провело комплексную работу по изучению возможностей базирования кораблей и выполнению боевых задач в этой акватории, сообщили источники «Известий» в военном ведомстве. По результатам исследований, которые шли несколько месяцев, признано, что МРК могут эффективно действовать в Ладожском озере. Эксперты отмечают, что это адекватная мера после расширения НАТО на северо-западе: отсюда корабли могут держать под прицелом Финляндию.«Это вполне здравый военно-технический ответ на вступление Финляндии и Швеции в НАТО. Ладожское озеро достаточно большое. Во время Великой Отечественной войны там действовала Ладожская флотилия, после войны дислоцировались различные силы. Это хорошая идея — обеспечить стрельбу «Буянами» и «Каракуртами» по целям НАТО. Кроме того, этот район не так хорошо известен разведке альянса, как балтийские базы», — рассказал «Известиям» военный историк Дмитрий Болтенков.

Translation: A military-technical response to NATO expansion is being prepared on Lake Ladoga - it could become a missile launch site for small missile ships (SMRVs). The Ministry of Defense has carried out comprehensive work to study the possibilities of basing ships and performing combat missions in this water area, sources in the military department told Izvestia. Based on the results of research that took several months, it was recognized that RTOs can operate effectively in Lake Ladoga. Experts note that this is an adequate measure after NATO expansion in the north-west: from here ships can keep Finland at gunpoint. “This is a completely sound military-technical response to the accession of Finland and Sweden to NATO. Lake Ladoga is quite large. During the Great Patriotic War, the Ladoga Flotilla operated there, and after the war various forces were stationed. It is a good idea to ensure that Buyans and Karakurts fire at NATO targets. In addition, this area is not as well known to alliance intelligence as the Baltic bases,” military historian Dmitry Boltenkov told Izvestia.

You see how simple it is to operate when you have alternatives in case someone decides to fight war with Russia in the North. Same as Caspian Flotilla can navigate from Caspian Sea to Azov Sea and further. That's the power of the mosquito fleet with draughts allowing it to navigate internal river and lake routes while having weapons' ranges of more than 2,500 kilometers. Finland and Sweden made their choice, now Russia is making hers. Just in case...

Saturday, November 21, 2020

Old School Beautiful.

No, not Victoria Kosoglyadenko of TV Zvezda who did this report (you don't need to know Russian to understand what is going on--regular inspection of submerged part of the hull). But the Oliver H. Perry-class FFG flag-ship Alexandria which is now in service with Egyptian Navy still shows off its nice lines. The group of Egyptian ships arrived to naval base Novorossisk to hold joint exercises with Russia's Black Sea Fleet. 

And you can still enjoy the naval architectural beauty of old but gold American design--the nose silhouette of Perrys is gorgeous. Just plain beautiful. Below is the video of Alexandria and Admiral Makarov leaving Novorossiisk for exercise. 


In other related news, Small Missile Ship Odintsovo of Karakurt-class has been commissioned to Russia's Baltic Fleet and as you can see, this one is with fully operational navalised Pantsir-M, which is now capable to intercept high supersonic targets at distances of up to 40 kilometers, which allows even a group of 2-3 Karakurts deploy a robust air-defense in the area. 

New, 4,500 kilometer range 3M14 land attack and 1500 kilometer range anti-shipping 3M54 missiles and coming soon 3M22 Zircon make these ships a nightmare for any theater of operations. Vladimir Putin speaking to G-20 today (in Russian) about the risks the world faces warned about steady unemployment with further growth of poverty as the main danger. As you all know, this type of depression, and it is depression, cannot be resolved by pure "peaceful" means. For this collapse of the financial capitalism to not go full global and nuclear one needs this proverbial gun at the temple of those, from governments to creeps like Soros and other self-proclaimed "elites", to ensure that no stupid movements are allowed. This is what Russia's rearmament program is all about--blocking all possible paths to military escalation, especially when one considers the ignorance and a complete moral decay of modern Western decision makers.

Monday, July 30, 2018

Didn't Take Long, Didn't it?

Russia may (will) offer newest Karakurt-class (project 22800) missile corvettes for sale abroad. 
Yes, Kalibr (and Oniks) and, I may add, navalized Pantsir starting from the third hull of the first batch of these ships are what makes all the difference in the world, giving these corvettes a massive fire-power. It was clear from the get go that these ships have a massive export potential. It was just confirmed. Now, expect yet another round of sanctions on Russia and those who would be buying Karakurts

  

Thursday, June 21, 2018

Why Mathematical Models Break Down. And Why Our Life Depends On That-2


Continuation, see the beginning here

So, let's be REAL now and, using our American-Chinese example of calculations of the Status S(t), go directly to the inherent weakness of this XM which we assumed equal for the United States and China. In reality, this index is radically non-equal, with the United States (for now) holding an overwhelming advantage over China in some key military aspects. If you go back to the formula you will see that it is not well thought out. We start, of course, with one thing which actually reduces large advantage the United States has over everybody else, since American M1 is largest in the world and by far. American military budget is colossal and on this merit it, as many math and economic purists would suggest, should clearly indicate American overwhelming military advantage over anyone. Indeed, if to follow SIPRI's numbers US military budget is $610 billion/$228 billion = 2.68 times larger than that of China and, considering the fact that in this formula:
 
X with M1 subscript (these are military expenditures) multiplies everything within the bracket (simplest distributive property) look at how Chinese and American XM, that is militaries, would compare. Assuming China's all Ms equaling 1 and equaling the same on the American side, it goes without saying that American XM, that is military potential, will be 2.68 times larger on the merit of military expenditures alone. Compare now American military expenditures to those of Russia—Russia's military expenditures are dwarfed by those of the United States, with the US having them 10 times larger. But things are NOT as they seem and let US Marine Corps Captain Joshua Waddle speak:

Basically, Waddle's succinct observation boils down to the rejection of the monetary (false) "value" of the military and to the implicit call for looking at:

1. REAL capability and REAL effectiveness, which are (see below) matters of….
2. Doctrines and of Tactical, Operational and Strategic concepts, and…
3. Technological and procurement policies. 

Once those things, INSUFFICIENTLY spread among M2, M3 and even M4 (nukes) "potentials" (where Air Forces and Air Defenses have been lost in this formula—is a mystery), are considered one begins to really question the whole wisdom of a direct monetary relation between expenditures. Here is a demonstration of a fallacy of such an approach which absolutely, even when using a "Potential" index, reflects a complex relation between real capability and "Potential". Let's get away from China for a second and get to a now classic example of highly misleading M1 index.

This is LCS-1:


This is LCS-2:



The US Navy has both active, building and orders for 29 of those Littoral Combat Ships. We are going to round up costs of these ships to about $650 million a pop for either version and based on that we may calculate the cost of the whole program: $650 mil * 29 = $18.85 billion. Everyone knows by now that these ships are known sarcastically as "self-propelled 45-mm gun". A very expensive, I may add, 45-mm gun. This is not to mention never-ending issues with Combat Modules and other "lovely" things these, otherwise nice looking ships, became known for.

Here is Project 22800 Missile Corvette of Karakurt-class.


This ship, which costs approximately $300 million boasts not only deadly long range anti-shipping and land-attack missile complex, it also has a very respectable air defense and is equipped with 76-mm gun, not to mention a state-of-the art EW complex among many other features. Currently 9 of 18 planned are already afloat or are being built. So, the cost of the whole program, thus, is $300 * 18 = $5.5 billion. Let us recall here also 11 active or being built, even less expensive, albeit still very impressive Project 21631 Buyan missile corvettes—those will run within (plus-minus) $200 million price-range. The program cost: $200 * 11 = $2.2 billion. Add two programs (incidentally—same 29 ships as LCS) together: $5.5 + $2.2=$7.7 billion. Comparing the two classes (programs) is easy: US Navy spends $18.9 billion for ships none of which would survive encounter with any group of Russian missile corvettes which will meet LCS precisely where LCS title (Littoral Combat Ship) suggests it should operate—enemy's littorals. This is, of course, if we are talking about a completely improbable scenario of LCS engaging Karakurts in naval combat, since such an engagement is simply inconceivable—in case of serious war LCSs will be sunk, with no chance of defending themselves, by modern long-range anti-shipping missiles from platforms hundreds of nautical miles away.  

But comparison of the "potential", however, is legitimate here and precisely for the purpose of getting anywhere close to some numerical coefficient which will be appropriate for comparison and adjustment of the "potentials" or "combat capabilities". Comparison of LCS and of Karakurts (and Buyans) is simply a good example and here is the issue—yes, we may easily come to the monetary ratio of the costs: $18.9 billion/$7.7 billion = 2.45. That is, Russian Corvettes program is to LCS program (in US Dollars) as 1 to 2.45. But that is the issue here and that what Captain Waddle talks about and that is what I wrote the book about—combat capabilities of Karakurts dwarf those of LCS, which are way more expensive than those incomparably more capable, and less expensive, and dangerous Russian ships. If you think that the comparison here must go by mere counting of missiles on the ships (well, LCSs do not have any), or by caliber of the gun—think again. Real comparison starts with those funky and highly classified mathematical expectations for each of the missions and those vary wildly and dramatically. About this—later but some hint--it is not at all linear. 

To Be Continued....           

Saturday, April 7, 2018

Karakurts.

Not gonna lie--I always had it for mosquito fleet. Having seen and experienced organization and the scale of 2nd and 1st Rank ships and subs, often informal, closely kneaded crews with much more interpersonal relations at smaller combatants--that was always attractive for me, as well as for many others. Today, when one sees those state-of-the-art small ships which pack an enormous punch, one is forced to rethink the whole meaning of the service. In the end, modern Buyan-class or Karakurts can strike anything in Europe without even leaving their bases in the Baltic or Black Sea.  Things changed so much today.

Uragan's Bridge
Uragan and Typhoon
Uragan

Thanks to the guys from Airbase for these photos.   

Monday, July 31, 2017

First Down, Many More To Go.

As was expected, the first Project 22800 Small Missile Ship (Karakurt-class) was floated out on the eve of traditional Russia's Navy Day celebration (last weekend of every July). It is the first ship, traditionally named after wind calamities, Uragan (Hurricane), of the large series--13 similar boats are in a different state of completion over several Russia's shipyards. First three ships of this class will not have a navalized version of the famed Pantsir AD complex, all following those first three will have it. This will give these 800 ton displacing ships an immense bang for a buck in surface warfare scenarios. 
getting ready
 
Stern view

afloat
Thus Russian tradition of building serious littoral forces, now with a very impressive reach to a strategic depth, once one considers 3M14 capabilities, continues. This is not to speak of pure anti-shipping punch these boats pack. Unlike now globally known Project 21631 Buyan-class missile ships, Karakurts have better sea keeping properties which, most likely, will allow them to venture painlessly into Mediterranean in anti-shipping (and, of course, land-attack) role in support of Russian fleet operating near Syria. This will be serious addition considering the fact that with navalized Pantsir installed Karakurts will provide a superb short-range (up to 20 kilometers) air defense cover. 

Operational and strategic implications of this Mosquito fleet actively entering its In Being  phase, are immense, way out of proportion with the modest size of these ships. With such ships counting in dozens and packing such a punch one can only guess how this all may play out in the nearest future.